Greg & Dr. Bill Bemoan the Fact that there is more Political News then Industry News, but SHOT Show is only 90 Days away, and we have our Credentials set!The Election is only 23 Days away however, and If #HitleryKlinton wins the Rigged Election it will spell trouble for us all!(This is a replacement show from 10-13)
Why you need to learn the “411” on Holsters ( part 1)
By Dr. Bill Chachkes
Before I offered to give several years of my life to our “Government,” I was a student at a well known Criminal Justice College in New York City, prearing for a career in Law Enforcement. Having a lot of family who were Career Police and Career Military, you get a lot of Advice. One Uncle I was very close to had been in the Service and was a policeman, but also was in the Guns and LE equipment and outdoor sporting goods business. I remember many conversations we had when I spent time in the store on Saturdays growing up. One of the great “Talks” he gave me was about different Holsters and why that segment of the business was learning that a well fitting holster was just as important as your Ammo and Speed loaders or Magazines. This was the the ’70’s, when most of the NYPD and other surrounding areas’ department still used and Issued Revolvers, but some agencies were starting to go over to various Autoloaders. A lot of Outdoorsmen ( And even a few ladies) carried Autos “Just in Case” there was a run in with a Bear or a 2 legged Agressor. My uncle would talk with each customer about what they would be carrying the gun for. Although the Shop had grown when it left the Bronx for Westchester just to the North of the City line, it was still a family run business. My uncle and his partner believed in personal service. He’d never want to hear about an LE customer (or any customer) dying in the line of duty, especially because of equipment failure.
One Saturday I watched him work with a Father and Son, the Father a Veteran officer, and the Son a Rookie still at the academy. The young man could not get out of his head that he should have some kind of “Gunfighting low slung” duty holster. I guess he watched a lot of old western movies. My uncle told him he would sell him whatever he wanted for his own personal guns, but an On Duty Holster had to pass certain” Criteria ” to be worn on Duty. His Father agreed, and he left the store with 4 different belts to try out, two duty belts and two belts strong enough for off duty wear. When I asked my uncle why, his answer was simple. “You sell a new guy on the job more then he needs, with the promise that he can bring back what he doesn’t like after trying it out, and get a credit.” The young man had been issued an S&W 4″ service revolver, and bought both a Chief’s special and a Charter Arms undercover as back ups/off duty to test out for himself. He also was learning the 9MM S&W auto he had bought prior as well. The next week he was back to return one of the On Duty belts, but he kept both off duty belts, and all three handguns. He had chosen the Safariland duty holster and belt rig, and his department allowed 3 speed loaders to be carried, so he bought the speed loaders and pouches, as well as some strip loaders. My Uncle catered to his personal taste, while making sure he had a wide-ranging choice of the gear he needed.
Holsters become a personal choice for almost all of us, and no more so today then ever before with so many different guns we can choose to carry in many different ways. Many folks who open carry for work or as a personal defense choice, do so with Hip/Belt holsters made with either different textured leather, or leather & Kydex, or Kydex alone. Some also opt for Ballistic Nylon holsters as well. I have had and still have many different types of holsters for different Applications. Some who need to work in a car all day have adapted the Chest carry holster from military service pilots and crew, since various shoulder holsters had become popular with Aviators from World War Two and beyond. Many who carried under a jacket, especially detectives, preferred the shoulder carry, either with the Grips vertically carried, or with the gun hung horizontally. When folks go Holster shopping today, they can quickly get “lost ” trying to figure out what will work best for them.
Having worked and learned from my Uncle with some extra experience from my Dad, I’d see other young Army officers I was working with get that lost look. I used to help them figure it out. I’m still doing it today for friends, 40+ years after spending Saturdays at the shop. I always ask: A) what will you carry for, and will you be carrying Openly or Concealed? How many reloads will you carry? Will you carry it strong side? Or weak side cross draw? Shoulder Rig? or a chest rig? Once someone can answer these few basic questions, it gets easier to narrow down the field of choices.
Ex.#1: Friend is a former Army MP, who now does uniformed bonded private security at a bank. He is allowed 2 guns to carry, a Back up as well as a primary, But they must both be Revolvers. After we talked one day when a few of us went to the Indoor Range & Shop we frequent, I was able to have him try a few different belt holsters for his primary, and both an Inside the waist and an Ankle/lower leg set up for his back up. He got both guns in 357, with a 4″ on his hip and a 2.25″ for back up. Eventually he ditched the Ankle/Leg rig anyway and went with a “Tightrope” style in the small of his back.
Ex.#2: Friend is a former Marine, and now a local PD officer. His agency recently switched from officers choosing whatever Caliber they wanted off duty, but one on duty caliber and bought their own ammo with a stipend from their Department, to standardizing one caliber for both off and on duty, the 40 S&W, and only 3 brand guns, the SIG, the Glock, and the S&W. for on Duty.
After making his Choice, the SIG 226, he (we) built everything around his Gun, and not the other way around. Next was Ammo. Federal American Eagle LRN’s for Training, and he picked out some different approved SD Ammo to try out. Next came the Belt and assorted extras. He chose the Blackhawk setup, with 3 Mag. Pouches. He set up the belt to take 2 vertically and the third horizontally just behind the first two. He had the Blackhawk Serpa which he liked, as his Holster.
It’s very important to practice not only live shooting drills, but draw and Aim “Dry” drills as well. Not enough folks put the extra effort into different “Practice Disciplines.” Every(Handgun/Small Arms) trainer I ever had who was “Good” at what he taught, worked through many different “role play situations.” This method, that many used in the armed services, would expose trainees to different active shooting situations to help them learn the correct methods needed to get home every night. When I get ready to buy a new holster I will ask myself the questions back in the third paragraph to make sure I get the right choice, the one that fits me best overall. I don’t dislike the less expensive nylon or the Kydex rigs, i just have a “thing” for a good leather rig. That being said, I live in the High desert now, and as I have been told “A leather holster in the Desert becomes wet and smelly.” One of my favorite Inside the waistband holsters is the Insider by DeSantis. It’s not too thin, but not very thick, yet holds it’s retension and stays stable even with extended daily use. it’s the only Leather IWB rig I still use, as I make the move to kydex. The clip design lets you adjust both the height of the holster on your belt, as well as giving you some room to move the gun to the desired angle of cant. I also have Three pocket holsters, one Neoprene which rides in my “Man Bag” by “Sticky” and the other two suede models by Blackhawk
Now that I’ve gotten to know a few folks who make Kydex rigs, I have come to like a few “Off the rack”, but find the custom made ones so much better, even if they cost a little more. In Part 2 I will discuss the benefits of a custom designed “Just for you” Kydex Holster, but I want to end here with that, and there will be more to come in Part Two. Thanks for reading.
Folks we are trying out a few different Themes Temporarily. Please let us know your Thoughts, Thanks!(Dr. Bill)
Rob Morse Of the Polite Society Podcast and a contributor to Ammoland.com Joined us. We talked about Security in Houses of Worship among other Topics(almost 2 Hrs.)
Concealed Carry with Your Significant Other and / or Kids
By Lynne Finch
You’ve made the decision, you gotten a permit, you trained and practiced and now you are ready to go out into the world with your firearm. Good for you! Have you discussed this with the others in your life who might be out with you? Do they know what to do if something happens? My ex-husband and I had this conversation one afternoon. It started with us getting ready to go to the grocery store, I asked him to wait while I grabbed my gun. “We’re going to the grocery store, why are you getting your gun?” I responded “if I were going someplace I thought I would need it, why would I go there?” But it got me thinking.
I asked him, if we are confronted by an aggressor, what would you do? First answer was to step in front of me. Well, I’m the one with the gun. Ok, he would step behind me. WRONG! If he was behind me, that means I can’t move without exposing him or tripping on him. We talked it through. I explained that I needed him to move away from me, on a diagonal path and seek cover if possible. That left me free to move in any direction and respond appropriately. Had we not had that conversation, and something happened, the results could have been disastrous.
Same goes for taking the family for a walk. I often advise parents to have code words for their kids. They can be used to let them know that a stranger is safe picking them up from school in an emergency. They can also be used to trigger a version of hide and seek. Teach your little ones the difference between cover and concealment. Concealment can hide you from view but cover offers concealment and protection from a bullet. Cover is preferred but, worst case, out of sight is better than in the open. Have a word that isn’t likely to come up in conversation, but that is easy for them to remember. Be walking along, call out your word, maybe “Eggplant” and have the kids scatter away from you for cover and stay there until you give them the all clear. You can practice this, make it a game like hide and seek. Just remember that they should go away from you and somewhat behind, you don’t want them in front of you or between you and the aggressor. When I was a kid we used to practice fire evacuation drills. Same principle. If you practice when you don’t need it, you know what to do when you do need it.
This gives the armed family member the ability to focus on the threat, not worry about where the others are, know they are as safe as they can be, and hard for the bad guy to use to gain your compliance.
This can be a little tough for a couple when the woman is the armed one, but guys…get over it. If both members of a couple are armed, there are great classes out there that teach couples tactics, working together, communicating and defending each other. Above all, talk, plan and know what the other will do before you find yourself in that situation.
Lastly, the best encounter is the one you do not have. Stay aware, assess your surroundings, and avoid situations that “feel” wrong. A gun is an equalizer but it is not a panacea. No matter the circumstances, you shoot, you will be dealing with the consequences for a long time. There is a saying that “I’d rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6”. Personally, I would rather all my targets be paper. But, if someone takes that option away, I am prepared to defend myself and my family.
Lynne Finch is a Veteran, a Firearms Instructor and Author.
Lynne has written four books on shooting and personal security, Taking Your First Shot, The Home Security Handbook, Female and Armed and Living an Armed Life (available on Amazon).. She has contributed to a variety of publications, including Combat Handgun Magazine, Women and Guns Magazine, Gun Shows Today, A Black Man with a Gun and her own Blog, Female and Armed. While she has an interest in competition, her training is geared toward defensive tactics with a strong belief that the gun is the last resort.
Lynne founded Women Firearm Instructors, a supportive group of instructors supporting each other and sharing ideas.
Lynne is pleased to be able to share on Firearms Chat, and is open to any questions submitted. please sumbit your questions to the editor at Firearmschat@gmail.com and we will forward them on….Thanks!
Our Special Guest Maj Toure’ Joined us for the first part of the show to discuss the founding of the organization, the 13 city Tour he’s embarking on, and what the challenges are in bringing the 2A rights message to working middle class and working class African American, and Hispanic American communities.
John Richardson of the Blog “No Lawyers Only Guns and Money” and one of the Hosts of the Polite Society Podcast Jopined Us to discuss the Goings on in Charlotte NC and how it affects Legal Gun Owners…..as part of an extended Show…
Folks, we had a mishap. Such as the life of a website! all those Podcasts we Posted since we started the website Got Archived and up and VANISHED from here. Of course We have them Backed Up, Stay Tuned…..
Folks just a quick word-We have worked through our issues With our host, Word Press, and we have switched Podcast Plug ins, and we will be usingthe industry standard LIBSYN shortly. Please bear with us as we set up our Libsyn acount! So here’s that BIG announcement!!
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